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	<title>Comments on: Let our Agents Stand Trial</title>
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		<title>by: Talula</title>
		<link>http://heliolith.com/archives/2007/02/17/let-our-agents-stand-trial/#comment-17412</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Saheli,

Michael and I have discussed a similar effect of becoming more...comfortable? familiar? tolerant? of the idea of torture from watching Battlestar Gallactica--same idea as with 24, except BG gives the viewer the mental cushion of the enemy being inhuman. 

In a recent conversation with a friend, I realized that for myself, while there are certain acts of violence which I could readily envision myself performing (self-defense, for example, or if someone hurt a member of my family), this does not mean that I ever condone the state acting in this way.

I will have to look up this New Yorker article you mentioned.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saheli,</p>
<p>Michael and I have discussed a similar effect of becoming more&#8230;comfortable? familiar? tolerant? of the idea of torture from watching Battlestar Gallactica&#8211;same idea as with 24, except BG gives the viewer the mental cushion of the enemy being inhuman. </p>
<p>In a recent conversation with a friend, I realized that for myself, while there are certain acts of violence which I could readily envision myself performing (self-defense, for example, or if someone hurt a member of my family), this does not mean that I ever condone the state acting in this way.</p>
<p>I will have to look up this New Yorker article you mentioned.</p>
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		<title>by: Saheli</title>
		<link>http://heliolith.com/archives/2007/02/17/let-our-agents-stand-trial/#comment-16456</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 05:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Great post, Michael. I have yet to get around to reading the recent New Yorker article about 24, but in discussing the show with friends--even fairly liberal, anti-war friends--who watch the show I have suddenly realized how increasingly common it is to accept that torture may be necessary. Disturbing stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Michael. I have yet to get around to reading the recent New Yorker article about 24, but in discussing the show with friends&#8211;even fairly liberal, anti-war friends&#8211;who watch the show I have suddenly realized how increasingly common it is to accept that torture may be necessary. Disturbing stuff.
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